$1000.00 to win!

[Slowmotion]

Now that I have your attension we all just went through a weekend of
$1000 to wins and only 2 people are better off and everybody (including me) are just the same, wishing we would of won. Congrats to Smoke and Kenny you goys showed up and went for it. Now just a thought, what if they had around $1000. dollars to add to the purse a couple times a season and they went $600, 450, 375,325,250,225,200,180,170,160,150,140 and 125 to finish 100 to start. With 20 cars starting the A the promoter only has to add another couple hundred and everybody goes home with more money. The $1000 to win did not bring any extra cars to the tracks and didn't pay back anything after first place so the local racing economy stayed the same. Would you rather see the extra money passed out diffrently or am I the only moron that thinks this way?

[ksbronco]

I agree the money could be better spent. I thought Hays did raise the whole purse, but I may be wrong. At any rate, Minneapolis apparently by design, didn't want the extra mods, because they didn't promote the race any differently than they normally do. Hays on the other hand did gain a few cars that don't normally come, and would have had more if they weren't running against a BST show.

The other problem with your pay scale is that most racers can't do math. A bigger number gets them excited, even the Guy that can barely make the A will typically pull a little further for a 1000 to win.

The other thing I didn't know, is that any show that pays at least 1000 to win also qualifies the winner to be on the All Star ballot, which I think would be an honor.

[Slowmotion]

I dont think either show quailified anybody for the allstar race, or they didn't make a big deal of it anyway.

[ksbronco]

Porter is who told me any race that pays a grand does. I don't know why they didn't make a bigger deal about that. Dodge pays $100 to start weekly, but they don't have any more mods than any other Saturday night track. I certainly agree the racers would be better off if promotors were thinking what is better for the racer rather than what gets them excited.

[ksbronco]

Something interesting to think about again somewhat pertaining to this...

I don't see full results anywhere yet to confirm this, but by fan reports I hear Minneapolis had 15 mods this weekend or so, and Dodge had 40. Dodge was a BST show paying 750 to win, and I believe 100 to start.

So does this mean that the pay back system was at work and drew cars? Or does it mean that the purse doesn't have to be big if you have a name like BST? On a weekly basis I don't think dodge gets much more than the 15-20 mods, and BST roadies only make up 5-10 of those cars, so what made them come?

There were other shows against these two too, so it wasn't that either.

[Slowmotion]

I can't figure out the deal at Minni except that they haven't really tried to draw any more cars than the ones they have now. Word of mouth only goes so far and then you have to start promoting what you have. example: Ottawa county fair, have a one night show pay 750 to win with all the full IMCA points have some type of fair judging behind the stands and give out some fair awards, let kids in free with fair pass sell cookies and stuff made for fair and promote the crap out of it, I would guess they could get at least 35 mods? 15 to 20 Istocks 35 to 40 sport mods and who knows how many hobbies and your pay out wouldn't be that much more and look at all the cars that you may be able to add to your weekly show.

[baby huey]

I have talked to a couple of drivers who compete at Dodge City on a regular basis. They tell me they have around 30 cars on a regular night. Part of that due to the Oklahoma cars coming to compete.

[ksbronco]

Their car count may have gone up that much now, early in the season they didn't ever have 20 mods. I know Enid closed now though, so they may be getting more.
I asked them about a fair race, a d they tried the first year they were open and got a very negetive response from the fair board members and ha e not tried again, but I am sure they could do some politicking and make it a win win win for themselves, the racers and the fair board, but I don't know if you would get those car counts on a Saturday night? Maybe depending on who else is running. Maybe we should try to help them figure out to do that!

[tb1545]

my honest opinion... i dont think 1000 to win really means too much for modified guys and certainly wont warrant traveling a long ways for the show... 1000 to win basically rewards the local drivers with a bigger purse and yes it might draw in a handfull of non-regulars...
I think belleville 100 proved it... if you want a big car count sanctioning series is where its at. you can offer the kitchen sink, but to many drivers its easier to just race 20 or 30 minutes from their home instead of going to a big event especially during the dog days of summer...

[ksbronco]

We already have the sanction, IMCA, or are you saying that it if you want a big car count special you need to go BST?

I guess I see your point to that on the Belleville 100, but really its a totally different can or worms, and one that everyone has ideas of what would have made it better, but honestly it wasn't a bad deal at all. I mean there were cars from 5 or 6 states, the best racing you have every seen on belleville, and the fans got to see drivers they have only seen in magaizines or heard of!

I think you are right, the sanction would help it. I know BST has burned some bridges, and some promotors are just too hard headed to give them a try, but I do think a BST show would be good option to spend your extra money to get extra cars and fans.